{"id":17989,"date":"2026-10-19T12:33:13","date_gmt":"2026-10-19T10:33:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.dineplan.com\/blog\/?p=17989"},"modified":"2026-10-26T12:37:01","modified_gmt":"2026-10-26T10:37:01","slug":"in-conversation-with-anzio-obery-of-publik-wine-bar","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.dineplan.com\/blog\/in-conversation-with-anzio-obery-of-publik-wine-bar\/","title":{"rendered":"In conversation with Anzio Obery of Publik Wine Bar"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>[et_pb_section fb_built=&#8221;1&#8243; admin_label=&#8221;Blog Post Section&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.18.0&#8243; custom_margin=&#8221;0px||0px||true|false&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;0px||0px||true|false&#8221; locked=&#8221;off&#8221; collapsed=&#8221;off&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_row admin_label=&#8221;Content&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.19.5&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;0px||0px||true|false&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;0px||30px||false|false&#8221; collapsed=&#8221;off&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;4_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.18.0&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_text admin_label=&#8221;Intro&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.9&#8243; background_size=&#8221;initial&#8221; background_position=&#8221;top_left&#8221; background_repeat=&#8221;repeat&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<p>Being a bartender can feel powerful and intimidating. It\u2019s a unique position in service work where the power dynamic is flipped, positioning the bartender as the one in charge. Think about it: The customer walks up to you. You\u2019re both standing on equal ground. There\u2019s a large counter in between you, perfect to duck underneath and hide behind in case things get testy. I like to pretend I\u2019m &#8220;packing fridges.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>When you\u2019re a waiter, you\u2019re at the mercy of being on the floor. The customer is sitting down, putting them in a position of power because you\u2019re having to walk over to them. There\u2019s more possibility for a lengthier conversation because you have to ask them what they want. Customers can even *gulp* call you over.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019ve been a bartender for the better part of six years now. I worked my way up, doing my time on the floor as a waiter. But as soon as I graduated to working behind the bar, I vowed to never leave. I\u2019ve never felt more commanding, especially as a woman. Being a bartender means you can say No if a customer treats you badly, and when you\u2019re working in service, there\u2019s no better feeling than refusing to serve the man who\u2019s just snapped his fingers at you.<\/p>\n<p>In honor of bartenders and their service to society, I\u2019m starting a series where I ask bartenders, veteran and rookie, questions about the trade. I want to hear about the best night on the job, the worst customer imaginable and how you deal with people who think they know more about making martinis than you do?<\/p>\n<p>For my first interview, I went close to home. Anzio Obery is the manager at Publik Wine Bar on Kloof Nek Road in Cape Town. He\u2019s also my manager (I work there too!) and my friend. 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There\u2019s a reason why that\u2019s behind the bar, people. Sometimes we have wine in there that we\u2019re keeping cold for customers, or a bottle that\u2019s off the menu. Whatever it is, if it\u2019s behind the bar, it\u2019s none of your business so keep your paws to yourself.<\/p>\n<p>Secondly, when people walk in and don\u2019t acknowledge the bar or kitchen staff. That\u2019s just rude. You\u2019re walking into someone else\u2019s establishment. Do you walk into someone else\u2019s house and not greet them? What ever happened to manners? Want a little extra taste or an off-menu recommendation? Then greet me.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Robyn: Yeah, I hate that too. We\u2019re not part of the furniture! Okay, changing gears. Describe your ideal customer in five to seven words.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Anzio:<\/strong> Spatially aware, concise, know what they want.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Robyn: A dream! Since we work at a wine bar, what is the most annoying thing a customer does when they taste wine?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Anzio:<\/strong> I hate it when someone tries to pretend they know more about my job than I do. I don\u2019t like bringing this up at the bar (because people tend to ask a ton of questions) but I\u2019m a trained winemaker so I know what I\u2019m talking about. When it comes to certain regions or varietals, sure, you may know more about wine than I do, but don\u2019t try to embarrass me just to look cool in front of your date or friend. It\u2019s not a good look.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Robyn: And do you have any tips on how not to look silly when tasting wine?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Anzio:<\/strong> You can do the whole smelling, slurping thing because that is technically the correct way to taste wine. But if you don\u2019t know what is actually going on, just ask for recommendations. I\u2019ve worked in wine bars for years. I know what someone wants when they ask for something \u2018crisp and mineral\u2019 or \u2018heavy-bodied and jammy\u2019. Just trust me.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Robyn: What do you love about bartending?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Anzio:<\/strong> As grumpy as I am, I do love getting to meet such a wide array of people. We get a lot of international people at the bar and it\u2019s fun hearing what people do, where they\u2019re from and why they\u2019re in Cape Town.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Robyn: And what do you hate about bartending?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Anzio:<\/strong> Also the people. Especially when someone just doesn\u2019t know how to behave. Sometimes people come into the bar and you\u2019d swear it\u2019s their first day on Earth.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Robyn: What non-related question do you get asked the most while bartending?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Anzio:<\/strong> \u201cIs someone sitting here?\u201d as they gesture to a table someone is sitting at. And, \u201cIs this real?\u201d as they point to the leg of prosciutto hanging above the kitchen.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Robyn: Lastly, ending on a high, what is your favourite wine this month?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Anzio:<\/strong> The Glen Heatlie \u201cFrontier\u201d Grenache Blanc 2025. It\u2019s a wine I\u2019ve enjoyed every year since its maiden vintage. It\u2019s such a beautiful wine by Joan Heatlie.<\/p>\n<p>If you\u2019re a bartender, know a bartender or have had a burning question you\u2019ve been wanting to ask your local mixologist (don\u2019t call them that) then get in touch to be part of the series and help us get to know the people who serve our drinks.<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][et_pb_row admin_label=&#8221;Banner: Robyn Paterson&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; background_enable_color=&#8221;off&#8221; use_background_color_gradient=&#8221;on&#8221; background_color_gradient_direction=&#8221;1deg&#8221; background_color_gradient_stops=&#8221;#000000 0%|rgba(41,196,169,0.04) 68%&#8221; background_color_gradient_overlays_image=&#8221;on&#8221; background_image=&#8221;https:\/\/www.dineplan.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/07\/Robyn-Paterson-Dineplan-Blog.png&#8221; background_enable_video_mp4=&#8221;off&#8221; background_enable_video_webm=&#8221;off&#8221; background_video_width=&#8221;1080&#8243; background_video_height=&#8221;720&#8243; custom_margin=&#8221;27px|auto||auto||&#8221; link_option_url=&#8221;https:\/\/robynpaterson.substack.com\/subscribe&#8221; link_option_url_new_window=&#8221;on&#8221; collapsed=&#8221;on&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;4_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.4&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; background_enable_video_mp4=&#8221;off&#8221; background_enable_video_webm=&#8221;off&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_text admin_label=&#8221;Keep reading with Robyn&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.9&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; text_text_color=&#8221;#FFFFFF&#8221; text_line_height=&#8221;1.3em&#8221; header_3_text_color=&#8221;#FFFFFF&#8221; header_3_line_height=&#8221;1.2em&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;200px|40px||40px|false|false&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;]<\/p>\n<h3>Keep reading with Robyn<\/h3>\n<p>Discover more of her stories on food, wine and life in Cape Town on her Substack, CHOMP.<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_button button_url=&#8221;https:\/\/robynpaterson.substack.com\/subscribe&#8221; url_new_window=&#8221;on&#8221; button_text=&#8221;Subscribe to CHOMP&#8221; button_alignment=&#8221;left&#8221; button_alignment_tablet=&#8221;left&#8221; button_alignment_phone=&#8221;left&#8221; button_alignment_last_edited=&#8221;on|desktop&#8221; admin_label=&#8221;CTA&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.27.9&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;b14c62f7-4b37-4804-892a-16a45345e90f&#8221; button_border_width=&#8221;0px&#8221; button_border_color=&#8221;RGBA(255,255,255,0)&#8221; custom_margin=&#8221;20px|20px||40px|false|false&#8221; custom_margin_tablet=&#8221;40px|0px|20px|40px|false|false&#8221; custom_margin_phone=&#8221;40px|0px|20px|40px|false|false&#8221; custom_margin_last_edited=&#8221;on|desktop&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221; button_bg_color__hover_enabled=&#8221;on|hover&#8221; button_bg_color__hover=&#8221;&#8221; button_border_color__hover=&#8221;#a6a9b5&#8243;][\/et_pb_button][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][\/et_pb_section]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>What really goes on behind the bar? 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